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Re: jack-veiter 14 Jun 2013 22:21 #209365

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hi everybody-
when i log in, at the top of the page, it says 'hi,jack'! i hope i'm not arrested!
anyway, thanks for your good wishes!! those words are worth millions to me! and believe me, i could use millions.i feel like i just won the lottery-

Re: jack-veiter 14 Jun 2013 22:24 #209366

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jack wrote:
hi everybody-
when i log in, at the top of the page, it says 'hi,jack'! i hope i'm not arrested!

Just don't log in at the airport . Oh, and don't talk to kabbalists there either .

Re: jack-veiter 28 Jun 2013 07:32 #210679

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Hi Jack!
Admin put these lines here cuz he likes 'em:
"The heart needs to be broken when will-power is not enough"
"Get off the 18-Wheeler and onto a tricycle!"
"The heck with me, what can I do for you?"
"I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons!"

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 19:22 #247296

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ok, maybe it's time to reach out again.6 years ago, when this site was < 1 year old, i found it and got great support from everybody.i went through absolute torture trying to stay clean, and it worked for about 4 years.then i relapsed, and i started climbing my way back.and i'm really doing much, much better. but what worked for me back then seems to be wearing off. reb guard is trying to get me to learn about the 12 steps - but as much as i listen, i just cant seem to get it.i see the wisdom in SOME of the steps, but not all of them. maybe someone has some ideas?

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 21:11 #247315

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From what I understand, there is a "torah shebeal peh" to it, and you can't really "understand it". You have to "DO it".

Lehavdil, I don't think someone who has not experienced a Shabbos can really understand it by expalanation. It has to be experienced.

The 12 steps is not about understanding at all. Just follow directions, and see what happens.

That is my "understanding", admittedly as an outsider. I did the 12 step phone call with dov, but that, and reading some posts here is my only experience with the 12 steps.

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 21:19 #247317

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maybe my reluctance to hand my will over to another power is telling me something about myself.hmm....maybe i'm afraid to give myself up.maybe i'm afraid i'll lose myself.maybe i'm actually terrified of this.my guiding force in life has been fear, fear of the unknown.and i've already lived this way for > 55 years.this fear is really a step 4 concept - i think.but it's REAL and it's terrifying.

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 21:30 #247320

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Handing your life over to a higher power is actually freeing. But you can't understand it until you do it.

What have you got to lose?

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 21:40 #247323

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'what have u go tot lose?'


myself.

i just want to let you know that i'm not giving up.but i will need help in this.
you know r' twerski shlita would go to meetings to get answers, instead of going to experts.and HE was an expert himself!

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 21:44 #247325

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"would go?" "was?"
Rumor is, he STILL goes. And he definitely is still an expert himself.

Hatzlocha, R' jack.
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My threads:
www.guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/236327-Bigmoish-tries-to-be-good
www.guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/236329-Bigmoishs-path-to-tahara

"Expectation is the mother of frustration" - gibbor120
"Today, damn it! Today!" - cordnoy
"Desiring is not a sin at all, but just a sign that you are not dead yet" - Dov
"We are our own worst observer" - eslaasos's therapist
WDHW!!!

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 21:59 #247327

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if i can get over this fear, it will be one of the most important things that will have ever happened to me.one of these things was finding GYE - it happened thru a miracle. I've had many other miracles happen to me in my life.i need another one.

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 22:15 #247328

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I believe Rabbi Twersky said that he still attended for character development. If that's true, then maybe we can focus on that (something to do), instead of on avoiding porn (something not to do).

I'm getting back to my erev-Shabbat prep...but GYE has such an amazing bunch of people, I don't want to leave!

Best to all.

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 22:27 #247331

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i agree - the best people on the planet.but i've been to a few 12 step meetings and i must say most of the people at these meetings are very special people - they have suffering in common and they are bound together.

i wont post till tuesday as i dont have internet at home and i'm not getting it any time soon.
gutn shabbos to all
jack

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 22:49 #247332

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Just wanna welcome you back
Tis been a while Jack
Lookin' forward to the 12 steps
or maybe instead, you'll try the tips from Skep's

Either way; power to you!

Good shabbos
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If one gives up at the first sign of a struggle, he is really not ready to be successful."
"Tryin' and doin' are two different thin's - tryin' is hopin'; doin' is succeedin'.
"The right thin' to do and the hard thin' to do are usually the same."


Disclaimer: I am not a cheerleader; B"H, there are many on the site. I am here to change myself, and with God's help, by some mistake, I might even help change others.

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Last Edit: 16 Jan 2015 23:01 by cordnoy.

Re: jack-veiter 16 Jan 2015 22:54 #247333

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jack wrote:
'what have u go tot lose?'


myself.
Maybe you will FIND yourself?

Re: jack-veiter 19 Jan 2015 05:14 #247384

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3,4 years agojack wrote:
hello all, i am starting a new thread for myself - to symbolically say goodbye to the 'old' me.in other words, out with the old, in with the new.what better time than at rosh hashanah - may the old year and its curses end, and may the new year with its blessings begin.ameyn.


looks like you were able to get over the fear of 'the new me' and actually quite looked forward to it
did it before, you can do it again!
Last Edit: 19 Jan 2015 05:15 by kilochalu.
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